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israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders from israel, and trying to take advantage of the new arab spring balance of power, the muslim brotherhood in egypt, to leverage that possibility. israel. israel has been watching for the last six to nine months hamas bringing in longer and longer range missiles from iran. i think they saw this as an opportunity of necessity to take those out, missiles that can now hit tel aviv and jerusalem. egypt. this is a real problem for egypt. you have a new government there that needs money from the united states. they don't want t
israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders...
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>>guest: let israel do what israel things it needs to do to defend itself. yesterday he said israel has a right to defend itself but we don't want to see israel ramp it up and go in gaza on the ground. minute, i have to say, if israel believes it does in their best interest to go in on the ground, yes, you should support that. the world might not like it but you say you have israel's back, president obama has said that time and time again, while that opinion of his or what he has been saying will be put to the test. >>stuart: thank you, sir. >> time is running out as democrats double down on tax hikes in this fiscal cliff deal. will republicans give in to that? hi. i'm henry winkler. and i'm here to tell homeowners that are 62 and older about a great way to live a better retirement. it's called a reverse mortgage. [ male announcer ] call right now to receive your free dvd and booklet with no obligation. it answers questions like how a reverse mortgage works, how much you qualify for, the ways to receive your money, and more. you ♪ [ male announcer ] are yo
>>guest: let israel do what israel things it needs to do to defend itself. yesterday he said israel has a right to defend itself but we don't want to see israel ramp it up and go in gaza on the ground. minute, i have to say, if israel believes it does in their best interest to go in on the ground, yes, you should support that. the world might not like it but you say you have israel's back, president obama has said that time and time again, while that opinion of his or what he has been...
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it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a long-term commitment by gaza not to launch missiles. >> dana: andrea, that issue of a long-term situation or solving it quickly. hamas and netanyahu said we don't want a short-term solution. we want something more lasting. that would include something that both sides say they won't do. from your per speculative, you were talking earlier i morning about the timing of it. when you get a second term as a president, and second terms are usually filled with foreign policy. this is the first test of the second obama administration. >> andrea: right. a lot of people are looking at the timing and they are specul
it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a...
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then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate cessation of hostilities and a two-stage process within two weeks to a month there would be a broader agreement. we've known from the start that israel wants to do something about changing the reality where these rocket attacks do not continue to come from gaza. at the same time where you're standing in gaza there's a lot of criticism about the counterfire that's come from israel and the way they've been targeting areas that are very dense civilian areas. >> that's correct. in fact a lot of people have been describing it as two types. one it's a disproportionate use of force and more importantly a form of
then israel would want to move to a second stage where the two sides, israel and the palestinians, would engage in this discussions, negotiations overs the next two weeks to one month talking about potentially ending the siege on gaza, making it easier for palestinians -- >> and clearly we're having difficulty with richard's reporting. surmounts any difficult of technology. richard is reporting on negotiations in cairo -- amman, you're in gaza as well. negotiations would be a immediate...
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they say w israel has to given o certain demands. german officials that turkey is about to formally request missiles to defend against syrian attacks. claiming if approved missiles would be for defense, not creating a no-fly zone in syria. syrian rebels have called for a no-fly zone following the continued airstrike. and new developments in the search for possible new york city serial killer. the fbi and n.y.p.d. now looking for four potential witnesses after they respond on surveillance cameras around the area. the three victims were all middle eastern shopkeepers. those are your headlines. back to lori and melissa. melissa: president obama may not want anything to do with simpson-bowles, but some members of congress do. charlie gasparino on the behind the scenes effort played by the debt reduction partner covert the dreaded fiscal cliff. >> we should point out that they're meeting with legislative groups to craft a potential deal. going to numbers of congress to say here is what we think you should do, here is how it should work. h
they say w israel has to given o certain demands. german officials that turkey is about to formally request missiles to defend against syrian attacks. claiming if approved missiles would be for defense, not creating a no-fly zone in syria. syrian rebels have called for a no-fly zone following the continued airstrike. and new developments in the search for possible new york city serial killer. the fbi and n.y.p.d. now looking for four potential witnesses after they respond on surveillance...
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against israel from gaza. but if they don't have those rockets they can't launch them. >> reporter: this conflict in the gaza strip needs to be seen in a larger concept of israel's concerns about iran. >> our problem is not our border with gaza but other countries' borders with today toda -- bord. the rockets being fired at us come directly from iran. hamas terrorists have trained with the iranians. there is a strong>> reporter: iw years with the help of iran hamas has been stockpiling these rockets with a longer range. israel has long known that if it participates in a strike on iran's nuclear program that iran will use hamas and hezbollah to fire rockets into israel. the israelis think they will have to deal with the rockets from gaza sooner or later and it's likely they will have to send in grounds forces. the pentagon is watching this very closely. for the first time hamas has fired rockets capable of hitting tel aviv and jerusalem. they were smuggled in through tunnels which is easier to do since the arab
against israel from gaza. but if they don't have those rockets they can't launch them. >> reporter: this conflict in the gaza strip needs to be seen in a larger concept of israel's concerns about iran. >> our problem is not our border with gaza but other countries' borders with today toda -- bord. the rockets being fired at us come directly from iran. hamas terrorists have trained with the iranians. there is a strong>> reporter: iw years with the help of iran hamas has been...
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and everybody back's israel's right to defend itself. if some group were firing rockets at the united states, we would go after them so it's a question of proportionalty. but it's a question of how do you go after them. >> john: but we know long-term it doesn't help israel. however, does it strength the electability of politicians? >> i don't think it's about this, was netenyahu was in a pretty strong position any way, but it certainly helps. there tends to be a rise in support around whoever the leader of israel is. we have elections coming up very soon. and in any event this will enhance his election prospects. >> john: i agree, and it's so discouraging, and i know so much of the world is so sick of it. >> yeah. >> john: and isn't the only key to israel's long-term prosperity an independent palestinian state. >> it is. any time you step up against who -- the palestinian leader you think is being difficult, you get a worse leader. look at what we have done over the years, every stage has produced a more radical leadership. >> john: you
and everybody back's israel's right to defend itself. if some group were firing rockets at the united states, we would go after them so it's a question of proportionalty. but it's a question of how do you go after them. >> john: but we know long-term it doesn't help israel. however, does it strength the electability of politicians? >> i don't think it's about this, was netenyahu was in a pretty strong position any way, but it certainly helps. there tends to be a rise in support...
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they're claiming israel is begging for a truce. a claim that israel vehemently denies. in other lighter news this morning, let's turn back to u.s. political news where representative alan west is still buried in denial. he won his bid for a recount of early ballots in st. lucie county but he is still losing when it comes to keeping his congressional seat in florida's district 18. in fact, democratic patrick murphy picked up some 300 more votes over the weekend bringing his total to about 2,000. west is still refusing to concede the election saying that he plans to review the result and additional data in order to decide how to move forward. murphy has claimed victory and it is very clear that west is probably all done. we're back with more steph after the break. these talking points, that the right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. really? i want to have those conversations, not to be confrontati
they're claiming israel is begging for a truce. a claim that israel vehemently denies. in other lighter news this morning, let's turn back to u.s. political news where representative alan west is still buried in denial. he won his bid for a recount of early ballots in st. lucie county but he is still losing when it comes to keeping his congressional seat in florida's district 18. in fact, democratic patrick murphy picked up some 300 more votes over the weekend bringing his total to about 2,000....
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fredrick plight begin live from israel. good morning, israel doesn't seem to be giving in on its side either saying that gaza needs to stop the attacks first as a negotiating starting point. what's the latest? >> certainly the attacks don't seem to be stopping. i'm quite close to the gaza stripe and just in the past couple of hours we've had two rocket alarms go off in the city. that is a signal for us to then take cover. if you're not in the vicinity of any buildings to hit the deck. also in other israeli towns throughout the area, there have been some rockets picked off by missile interceptor systems. so it does not look as though the violence is abating. one thing i will say, throughout the night it seems as though it was a little more quiet than in the past nights. however this morning there have been more rocket attacks. that is something that continues to take its toll on israeli civilians, as well. one of the things the israelis have said they're not going to stop this campaign until they've stopped rockets being lau
fredrick plight begin live from israel. good morning, israel doesn't seem to be giving in on its side either saying that gaza needs to stop the attacks first as a negotiating starting point. what's the latest? >> certainly the attacks don't seem to be stopping. i'm quite close to the gaza stripe and just in the past couple of hours we've had two rocket alarms go off in the city. that is a signal for us to then take cover. if you're not in the vicinity of any buildings to hit the deck....
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at least 25 rockets have already hit israel today, forcing israel to step up its offensive. that right there is video of an israeli air strike target ago hamas compound. they hit 80 targets in gaza overnight. >>> the f.b.i. and nypd are hunting for a serial killer on the loose in new york city today. the suspect wanted for at least three murders in the past four months. detectives are looking into several motives, but say the man has a fascination with numerology, they believe. the address for each crime scene includes the number 8, thanks to surveillance video, police want to question four people who might know more information. >>> there is new video of that fatal oil rig explosion in the gulf of mexico. >> holy (bleep) look at that! >> alisyn: a tv crew was filming a fishing show and they captured the explosion on camera. the oil company is expanding the search for the body of the last missing worker. a search and rescue dog is being brought in today and three dive boats are being used around the rig. >>> the fans have spoken. >> american music award goes to justin bieber
at least 25 rockets have already hit israel today, forcing israel to step up its offensive. that right there is video of an israeli air strike target ago hamas compound. they hit 80 targets in gaza overnight. >>> the f.b.i. and nypd are hunting for a serial killer on the loose in new york city today. the suspect wanted for at least three murders in the past four months. detectives are looking into several motives, but say the man has a fascination with numerology, they believe. the...
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and so, you know, if only we see china, israel, others have drawn is now, the iranians have some jobs right now. it's going to be a very short time frame before we have to deal with the other side of that we are already dealing with cyber attacks each and every day on our infrastructure, not the kind used in the olympic games, similar. so the answer to your question is, it can reinforce existing power structures, but it can then also empower not state actors far faster than we did reinforced. >> i would say that david's concluding point is a fair one, except coming back to us, i think that we have kept ourselves still in this environment as being extremely competitive, and you reference to an area that is a key one for the s states. that is energy. the united states is number one in natural-gas. the united states has been working very aggressively in terms of ensuring that it is energy independent, and it toward this end, just the other day the "wall street journal" highlighted the fact that the united states is now has really grown exponentially in terms of its own oil production. i
and so, you know, if only we see china, israel, others have drawn is now, the iranians have some jobs right now. it's going to be a very short time frame before we have to deal with the other side of that we are already dealing with cyber attacks each and every day on our infrastructure, not the kind used in the olympic games, similar. so the answer to your question is, it can reinforce existing power structures, but it can then also empower not state actors far faster than we did reinforced....
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relationship in the sense that things will go off the tracks with regard to either iran or syria, or now with israel's problems on the gaza and so on, i think that both sides will be careful to try to work as well together as they can, but they don't look at things exactly the same way. and it will matter i think, at least to the united states if we find things we think should get done at the united nations or in other ways are being stymied by china. i'm not predicting that what i would at least put a star next to that as a possibility. north korea, i think we're going to see some renewed efforts over the next several months to see if there's a path forward with north korea. i don't see the obama administration changing the terms of engagement. and our ambassador in seoul just reiterate the fact that we won't. but we'll also the new government in seoul, which i think no matter who wins, will be looking towards at least some more engagement. and that could indeed complicate things and involve both the u.s. and china, and i think we have to pay attention. finally, on these issues, i think that the focu
relationship in the sense that things will go off the tracks with regard to either iran or syria, or now with israel's problems on the gaza and so on, i think that both sides will be careful to try to work as well together as they can, but they don't look at things exactly the same way. and it will matter i think, at least to the united states if we find things we think should get done at the united nations or in other ways are being stymied by china. i'm not predicting that what i would at...